Manpreet my argument is not on the commonality. I know that it is a GENERAL problem in India. But why is it a problem? Do you think that its a problem or its just a part of life?

Mera argument yeh hai ke yeh desi culture main nahi seekhaya gaya hai (smoking/drinking, sex b4 marriage, divorce, blah blah..). Yeh problem parents ki wajah se, media, and society ki wajah se hua hai. Kyon yeh problem apne parents ke time exist nahi kiya tha?

Tum bilkul sahi ho – rehne main koi faraq nahi padta…kyon ke yeh common problem hai shaher main aur gaon main. Par is samasya ka hull kya hai?

I just think that if this problem wasn’t as severe as it is then thinking about settlement in India would be very easy for us. India main sab kuch hai if tumhare paas paisa hai.

But when I think about my children’s future, I do not want them to be in the same situation that Indian kids are currently facing living in India.

Over the last one year, I have seen Bangalore, Pune, Calcutta, Amritsar, & Mumbai. Believe me, its the same everywhere. Smoking, drinking, flirting is common every where.

And, Living in Delhi/Mum is certainly better than living in any other Indian city. You have so many facilities, so many places to hang out, etc etc.

BTW, rehne ki jagah se koi farak nahin padta. Kids are mirror images of their parents. Jo ma baap sikhayenge, wohi to woh seekhenge. Just see your example, even after staying in America, you value Indian culture so much. It’s just ‘coz your parents have shown you the right direction.

Chalo, bahut type kar liya. Back to work.

Maybe he means what you are saying that his aathma should take over me & devesh, and he has framed it thoda wrong, or maybe i’m just too excited about it being a friday.

Coming back to being bombay’s bg, hehe!! Abhi kya bolu tumko? Lol, all i said was the fact, bhavnagar ho ya Loooodhiana, the scene is the same eevrywhere.

& i really feel we cant do much about this, yeah not allowling baccha party to watch Mtv is a diff thing, lekin these days, Mtv has gone all indian in bombay. All they show is Music videos of bollywood movies, latest releases, and pop songs, but they also show stuff like Mtv Love line, and how to propose chicks ;)

All said & done, i personally feel raising kids in a big city is much better than raising them in a small gaon. I highly recommend staying in Delhi/Bombay and no where else. :D But then again, these are my opinions

Apun ki kismat aaisi hai ke apun ki soch Ridhish jee se milti hai. I was telling him that I was going to make this post yesterday but then posted something else.

Starting with your first point abt. the loosening of the culture. Haan toh Monty do you agree ke yeh sab hamare culture ka part nahi tha before this change into modernism? It is definitely was condoned to not do these things. Even today when you hear about an Indian women having a child out of wedlock (like shown in “Kya Kehna” movie) why do you (in general sense) react like this ::shock: ? Because its just not expected from Indians as its not part of our culture.

Apne parents ke time par kya ladkiyan kaam karti thi? Aur phir woh bhi raat bhar? Nahi naa? So it was not part of our culture. I am all for women liberation in India but for only the good reasons. Paise kamaana hai toh kamaao par yeh raat dher call center main kaam karna is not the way to do it.

You make the correct point about the six year old and THAT is the problem. Parents ab nahi dhyaan deh rahe hain jitna unko dena chaiye aur phir jo parents dhyaan rakhna chahte hain unke bacche unse rebel kar rahe hain. Ultimate blame does go on the parents. Toh kya ek 6 year old ko MTV dekhna chaiye? Nahi re, usko khelna khoodhnaa aur cartoons dekhna chaiye. If his parents are letting him watch that (same goes for the baccha’s friends, etc..) — then they are to blame.

Mumbai ka toh tum bilkul bodyguard ho Hehe. Chill. Yep you are EXACTLY right, its not just in Mumbai but that was just the example kyon ke Neeraj wahan par abhi hai. Jis cousin ki main baat kar rahi thi about the “non-veg” woh Bhavnagar main rehti hai (ek gaon in Gujrat). So it does happen everywhere and it would have been expected for it to be just in the big cities, par gaon main bhi yeh haal hai toh iska matlab samasya toh haath se nikalti jaa rahi hai.

[ Ridhish ] Aacha laga ke tum khush hue. Aur waise meri soch pehle se aaisi thi par tumhare good points ne mere ko aur strength diya! Thanks Koshish karo Devesh aur Monty par…shayad samaj jaayenge. :wink:

Okay Poonam, so do you think by smoking/drinking/having sex b4 marriage and all other things you mentioned, one tends to loose up on the Indian culture?
If women are working late nights in call centres, i dont see anything wrong in that.

I personally think if anything is done in limits, should be okay and shouldnt be a problem at all.

And talking about 6 year olds, yaar, if parents teach them the right things too, they pick stuff like this from the media and their peers, and at this stage, there’s not much parents can do about it. Theek hai values de sakte hain, but a lot depends on the friend circle too.

And you should be aware that this scene is not only in bombay, its everywhere in India, including small cities. Recently i went to punjab, and you should see the women dressing up. Its just everywhere, kya kya control karenge. Rest later, when we have some people to argue with :-)