As regards JULIE, i just dont know why the producer/director was hell bent on ruining the film with its sleazy promos. They made it sound like some sex film, when,in reality it was NOT. Agreed there were those hot scenes, but they were quite well done.

And though I did not buy the argument of Julie becoming a prostitute just becoz she met wrong men…the emotion of a small town girl trying to find true love again and again did strike a chord somewhere. Esp, in the end, when true love does come her way, she is so wary of it, that she nearly looses it… it was not a bad story and the film was overall pretty entertaining…and whoever did Neha’s dubbing has a lovely voice , fraught with emotions!

MURDER was a clever adaptation of UNFAITHFUL..and had similar love scenes as the original…

But yes, TAUBA TAUBA was painful and no, the boy was not eyeing his teacher…she was his neighbor…and the film made me nearly puke! On similar lines, KHWAISH was abs shit and made only to show Mallika’s body and nothing else!

PAAP was fine, as it had its touching moment, and JISM was too good… i dont think anyone can find that vulgar!

So I am saying that there is a better solution to making these movies/videos less accessible to children. One of the best things that I think should be done is more parents should take responsibility for what their children are doing and watching. Keep them busy in other stuff such as schoolwork (as we know that school is very tough and rigorous in India). Get them involved in activities such as sports or fine arts instead of them sitting at home watching TV. Lastly, know who they hang out with becuz if they have the wrong friends they are more able to do the wrong things.

I never said that we should ban these movies because like you pointed out with your science teacher example, its too hard to do and too many loopholes. But there are solutions to get around the problem and I think its necessary to implement those only.

The government has found a way, atleast I think they believe that they have found a way, which is the censor board. I don’t think you will see much action from them. Society. Aren’t we part of society??? If no one takes an action, nothing gets resolved. Authorities? They won’t do anything because they are all about money. Making money.

Totally agree, but how do you stop from it being so readily accessible to children? By not making it at all? Yes. That?s the answer. Why do you need to show vulgarness and these horrendous sex scenes on the silver screen??? Isn?t that what porn is for?? Do it on that screen, not in Bollywood.

I don’t agree with that. I think that is a socialist (dictatorship) approach. It is the authorities fault that young children can sneak in theatres where 18+ movies are being shown or they can buy a Rs. 100 VCD from the local movie store.

I still remmember a quote from one of my sience teacher (tution) in 10th class. He was talking about benifit/risk ratio. He said – Although a lot of people die from water borne diseases and even more get lot of diseases but still we don’t stop drinking water. So not making “those” movies isn’t an answer to get the children away from all that stuff. If u stop making those movies then they’ll find someother way. They can easily get a officialy C grade movie from that same local movie store wala and watch it or will logonto net or will watch britney’s videos…. so u can’t just stop them by not making movies.

So the society/govt/authorities should try to find out ways which can stop teenagers from accessing such things

Society only plays the part by going to the theatres. Who flocks the theatres to see this raunchy movies? Men only. They are not society, they are just men who want to see these raunchy movies. That doesn’t mean that these movies are in demand that is what society wants. Does that make sense?

Censor board. I don’t think that those American standards (abt. the ratings and all) would gell in India. Its just too difficult to card youngsters for their age like they do here in USA. That’s why the censor board is there. They haven’t been doing their job lately and if they would pick up the slack (hopefully with Sharmila Tagore we will see a difference :???: ) you will see these crap movies like Tauba Tauba not get passed. They are not helping anyone in society and let me tell you for those who want to see porn, there has to be something better (I wouldn’t know but I am guessing) than watching a 15 yr old boy have sex with his teacher!

that they hv to add sleaze so that the movies run FULL HOUSE in B n C segment cities where porn is not available and they would not go to c english movies? so for that segment of ppl this is heavenly sent n the producers n directors goto the bank with pocketfull !

I have two comments on this Kunal.
1. Its really sad that this happens what you have depicted. If people go see Murder just for the sex scenes because porn is not available, then they really need to get a life.
2. Veer Zaara just released and I bet it will go full house everywhere for the first week just because of its starstudded cast (and there is no sleaze in that movie).

Sometimes I sit and watch Chartbusters with my family and recently even we saw all of the new vulgar remix videos that they have come out with. Its really quite bad that they have ruined these great songs by doing these vulgar dances and clothing. I totally agree with your point there Kunal. If the younger generation retracts and stops promoting these types of videos, that’s the only way it will stop.

Puneet, I think that the censor board might not be the true answer but it is definitely a temporary answer. Agreed that they are not the realms of society which I don’t think we would be able to get either because its government controlled, but I think that they are there to stop the vulgar and sex that children especially shouldn’t see.

these been there things like sleazy movies porn etc its just coming out and becoming more easily accessible to people and children which I feel something should be done to stop it shouldn’t become easily accessible to children

Totally agree, but how do you stop from it being so readily accessible to children? By not making it at all? Yes. That’s the answer. Why do you need to show vulgarness and these horrendous sex scenes on the silver screen??? Isn’t that what porn is for?? Do it on that screen, not in Bollywood.

Why is this an issue now? Why was this not an issue in the 60s, 70s, and 80s? Is it because India is now modern and they want to do what Hollywood is doing? If that’s the case then they have it allllll wrong.

Let me tell you Puneet, that you just cannot compare Hollywood movies to Bollywood just because of the culture differences (lots more is accepted in US than in India). I watch the TV promos that they show for Hollywood movies and they are full of crap — they are usually worst at times then Bollywood, but on the contraire they know how to handle it. They don’t just pick on a theme and stick with it like we do in Bollywood movies. Sex is part of the film..fine…but these days Hollywood has been doing a better job in showing the decency of it then our Hindi films. Its really quite sad.

Well usually almost all English movie which I seen till now.. have been good u can say they entertaining all 95% of them but

Cant say the same about hindi movie.. some are weird only few movie come out good I mean once a blue moon out of 100-200 released only probably if luck 1-2 might turn out to be good

Poonam you said that society shouldn?t decide which movies to watch or not I mean then are these people who sit on censor board are they outside the realm of society? coz I always heard this clich? thing ?these people on sensor board are people chosen from all ways of society so that they give unbiased opinion about movie? this statement is crap totally because its natural a 20+ cant decide what a 50+ should watch and vice a versa and its came very unrealistic all agree and watch same thing and people on sensor board are usually people who are in there 50+

Poonam u will b shocked to c the videos ! they are just horrible !!! i mean nething done with taste would be ok but here the idea is to sell either tix or CDs. I hvnt seen one decent video in ages… some of the hindi videos are a partial copy of English song videos incl the clothing… or rather the clothing only ! theres one video where this girl is dressed like christina A. n other where its Beyonce… n IT DOESNT LOOK GOOD ON THEM ONE BIT !!! but who is going to stop them… it sells !!!

I think its the society (majority) decides wot to do and wot not to do.

Its true that filmakers joined the bandwagon but they r businessmen. Y those Bell Bottoms rn’t sold these days? Thats simply law of demand and supply… what is demanded by the consumer….is suplied by the manufacturer.

I never was or am for the Censor Board. Y the heck do they stop people from watching stuff that Anupan Kher or Asha Parekh thinks isn’t worth watching? I think Censor Board should be there only to put rating on the movie. They can restrict youngsters frm watching the stuff which they think isn’t right for them but y do they have to stop an adult from watching anything in the whole world? If a particular adult doesn’t wanna watch porn….malika’s movies…then he shudn’t watch it, y do they have to cut/censor all those scenes which may be even 10% want to watch? They can definetly rate the movie as 21+ or prono.

I don’t agree with you at all when you talk about targeting crowds. These movies are not made to target crowds but are made on what sells. Murder was a big hit and ever since that we have had every raunchy movie to hit the theatres. Why? Because they want to join in the bandwagon and think that if sex sells once, why won’t it sell again?? That’s the bottom line and that’s just wrong.

If society starts deciding what we are going to watch then we are going to be in trouble. Soon enough porn will be the next best thing and it will hit every big theatre just because society wants it? That’s what will happen if you put it in the wrong hands and I think that’s the reason we initally had a censor board. Its just has gotten out of hand and we have to get back to what is filmmaking. These bogus movies aren’t films — they are just raunchy, testerone-building movies.

Do you watch Mtv (American) while sitting with your parents? (I guess no…). So, I think we should let the society (majority) decide what is right for the whole community and take our own decesions like not watching chartbusters when sitting with the family or drop something and try to find it when something not so cool is on :P