India’s Children - What Has Happened?
Read this article found in the Times of India and then read below.
Is this the future of India? Are kids sent to school for this reason? 2 11th standards kids filmed themselves having sex on their mobile. Why? Just for kicks. What the heck does that mean??? Their parents are the ones that should give them some kicks….in the rear! 
I have wrote about the future of India, the next generation of kids, in a previous post and this new article just angers me more. What is India becoming? Who should be blamed for this?
Two kids that might have had a bright future threw it away because they wanted to have some kicks??? Well, we can make sure of this that they don’t know the meaning of sex. 11th standard students engaging in sex at their school, breaking up, and taking up revenge by selling the video to other batchmates, and then getting caught, is something that you would hear in a movie, not in real life.
One of the few people that I blame for this is the media. I blame the directors for making more and more raunchy movies that these students go and see. Yes, you have a job to do but if you want to make those kind of movies, make it on the porn screen, not the silver screen. The second thing, once thet got a hold of this video, they started airing it on TV channels across Delhi and maybe around the country. Why? Why are you doing this? Explaining what has happened is one thing but exploiting the video is taking it far.
Second I blame the parents for first of all giving them a mobile. Why would a 11th standard student in India need a mobile when you can find a STD/PCO booth on every street corner???? There is no reason for it, and they shouldn’t have it. Parents should also control what their children are watching and who they are with, as in their friends. Bad company leads to trouble and that is definitely involved in this situation.
What upsets me the most is to think what the next generation, who supposedly will be our future, are going to do for our country. Is our country going to turn into one of the dirtiest markets in the world?? Are we going to be exporting porn or selling prostitutes, very much what you see in Thailand today??? The government needs to start taking some control with the media, and parents need to concentrate on their children, not on making money.
India can have a bright future and be a super power but if our latter generations are going to behave like this, we will be a super power in another realm. India is already known for poverty, check out any new English movie that shows India, we don’t also want to be known as the place to get porn. Maybe an exaggeration but this is the second case recently that I have heard about this and its quite upsetting. Young people don’t understand what they are doing and find engaging in sexual intercoursel to be a joke. That’s the feeling I get when I hear cases similar to this and talking to people in urban India. There are some people who want to control the population, and there are some people that just do stuff for kicks.
We had Sex Education class when I was in high school, maybe its time to implement that in the Indian schools as well. What are your thoughts on this matter?
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December 1st, 2004 at 10:32 am
westernised would be a short and prudent answer, i guess…
and please don’t blame all the teenagers in india for it :no:, it only the ‘posh’ teens that do stuff like these because their parents dump tons of money on them without knowing what’s becoming of it or what their children are doing.
and btw, as far as i realise, the girl was either doped, drunk or in real bad company… what more can you expect from girls like these…
i’ve a friend whose bf broke up with her ‘coz she didn’t want to have sex… and this happened right here in kolkata… and then there was the news of a MBA guy which i am sure you have read in the papers… the most common trait in all these incident is that they are all from affluent families whose parents don’t give a damn to what they are doing or they believe in ‘live your own life’ phenomenon… declining family values, i guess…
December 1st, 2004 at 10:40 am
That’s interesting thought because I read the same thing in a few articles where they claimed that the girl was doped, drunk, or in bad company. Bad company is one of the things that I stated but if the other two are to be true as well then that’s quite sad for today’s young Indian women.
Come on yaar…who are we kidding? We know that teenagers know about sex but there needs to be more education on this. Today is World AIDS Day and India is supposedly is trying to work intensely on this to stop AIDS in India and then we hear about cases like this. Even though the boy & girl indulged in oral sex, it really doesn’t matter. Its the principle that worries me that these parents don’t really care what their children are doing and who they are with.
The example of your friend shows that this is happening all over India and something needs to be done about it. Sex Education is the best way to educate young adults about this. The most you can do is educate people, you can’t really stop their actions. If some of these raunchy movies/videos go off the air, that would help as well.
December 1st, 2004 at 6:36 pm
Sex education is a MUST…see first of all I dont think one can generalize this…it happens 0.1 out of 100 times…there iz a better lot too out there but these 2 people will ruin the image for all which is unfair-see the fact that we are saying india’s children etc…anthr thing…stuff has happened before also i mean not that if u will stop them they wont indulge in such things…they will do it without letting nyone know abt it right…so basically thr sure iz a formal need of sex education in india-its high time!
December 1st, 2004 at 8:16 pm
December 1st, 2004 at 10:27 pm
I do agree that such incidents are a cause for alarm considering the way in which teenagers are abusing their freedom and indulging in such lewd acts considering it as a “cool and westernized” way of treating life. And i also agree that it is a trend that should be seriously noted and there are many ways to stop such things from happening.
But i wouldnt immediately generalize the trend and apply it to the entire youth population of the country. I dont think the growth of a india as a country is in any way jeopradized by such stray irresponsible events.
We are familiar with the “Spring Break” culture among several college kids here in the US..does it stop the growth of the US as a country? Definitely not. So I dont agree with that line of argument at all.
But on the other hand..sex education is a must..it is only the lack of awareness among kids that is leading to such experimentation and stupidity.It totally goes against the basic “Indian culture” and that a cause for concern.
and btw…English/hollywood movies are quite fascinated by the portayal of India as a land slums and snake-charmers..i think they do that just because they like to and dont want to show anything else about our country..so I dont care about how these movies portray India.
December 1st, 2004 at 10:36 pm
darrrrn…. u rote di article b4 me….I was bout to blog it last nite but didn’t feel like. Neways i’ll definetly ping/trackback u. My vichars rn’t quite similar.
n BTW I dunn thnk that she was doped or drunk.
December 1st, 2004 at 10:50 pm
I think its necessary to note that I haven’t generalized the situation to just this one incident. There are other incidents that have occurred recently, sex in the workplace (i.e. Infosys) was another example that I had heard recently that was quite alarming. It really makes you think where we, as a society, have gone wrong. None of this was ever present in the past 10 years, or not present enough to be brought into the limelight, then why so all of a sudden? Its media and parents that I blame for this because they have become so much flexible and laidback then ever before. I just don’t think that teenagers these days are heading down the right road and its necessary that they are educated in this matter. There are still those aspiring teenagers who will bring goodness to the society and make this country proud but at times it seems that they are being overpowered by those who are just in school for timepass, fun, and masti.
Why do you think that these English movies portray India in that sense? Its not only because “they want to” but partially its true too. If we show off to be an intellectual power, then India will definitely be shown in a different light. That is my main point when I made that comment in my post.
Seems like I beat you to it Gaurav.
Definitely track me back..I would like to hear ur thoughts. I don’t think she was doped or drunk either. I think she was very much in control of mind and did it for what they wrote in the article, for kicks. Disgusting. 
December 1st, 2004 at 11:29 pm
I am not blaming “westernization” for everything disgusting happening in some Indian schools. That is the reason I mentioned that word within quotes..because that is a term used to labelling many acts that are supposedly alien to the Indian culture.
As for the two questions you posed in the first few lines of your response…the answer to those is YES even though the incidents may be stray (just as the incident that has occured in this Delhi school is stray). Its quite a fact that the younger Indian generation is quite influenced by foreign programs/serials shown on Indian TV. Dating, teenage sex..etc were never that inherently a part of the school scene..before the explosion of baywatch and other such sleazy shows. So I don’t really think we can argue against the “western” effect.
At the same time, I am NOT saying that we can blame everything on tv and the media.
The 2-3 instances that you pointed are disgusting and definitely point out the sad trend that has set in..it HAS to be stopped and parents,teachers have to step in. But I dont think we can extend the effect of the acts of a few sick teenagers this to an entire population.
December 1st, 2004 at 11:42 pm
nah the girl was not doped or nething… she was well aware of what she was doing…
parents n media blame both for kids indulging in such acts… girls are no less in this matter… had read ab a survey where it was found that the age where girls loose their virginity has dropped in the last few years in india…
y they do it? well for kicks, to fit in with the happenning crowd, to show off n coz well my frnds done it so i shud not be left behind attitude…
the economy is booming, parents hv money n long job hours… kids are left alone at home n their love is bot with money n buying what ever they want…
i hv seen kids in school like 7th std hving cell phone n not ne cell phone a really kewl one which would put even my cell phone to shame! the amount of money they spend is scary… most of the time parents are not even aware of where the money is spent… n its no more stickers n games its on drugs/gadgets/…
Poonam, its really scary the way things are in india… i have a frnd in SD who used to tell me like if he has a daughter he is going to catch the first flite n come back to india… with way things are now here it would be safer to stay in US rather then coming here…
o another thing… girls as young as 16 are going into prostitution or as they say Escorts… n am talking ab girls fr well to do family and good colleges… y ? coz its GOOD money…
December 1st, 2004 at 11:46 pm
It seems like Ashwin and I think alike. Westernization is one for the major factors.
I haven’t been to US school, wot do they teach in Sex Edu class?
Do American children have sex in school?
yes
Do American children videotape on their mobile that they are indulging in these sexual acts??
May be or may be not…the mobiles with cams have bcome popular recently.
o another thing… girls as young as 16 are going into prostitution or as they say Escorts… n am talking ab girls fr well to do family and good colleges… y ? coz its GOOD money…
I also heard similar things.
December 1st, 2004 at 11:46 pm
hey this is one incident which has come to light… am sure there are 100’s of such incidents happn everyday here which doesnt make it to the headline…
these kids dont think how it will affect their future… they are just leaving that moment…
did u know just after navratri, most num of abortion cases are recorded… n on top of the list was ahmdebad n baroda…
December 2nd, 2004 at 1:14 am
India?s Children - What Has Happened ?
is it just these Few isolated incidents lets take more if as mention this one had been brought into limelight by media and many don?t get noticed?. so lets take it as 1000 or for that matter hypothetically 10,000 ? well still it would be generalization? based on Few they cant represent society as a whole few bunch of people be it this incident or the infosy you mentioned because the bad thing get noticed easier then the good ones? coz its sensational? scandalous :???:
Its all out generalization well what makes you question India?s Children?
Poonam the ? at the end of the title is strategically :cool:located it just dilutes the generalization it was very intelligent if it was intentional coz saying ? India?s Children ? is all out outrageous generalization
Now coming back to Two points : which get mixed and merge in this article but which otherwise are not related they distinct
First : one the cell pone well each technology has its use and Misuse just because few misused it other should deprived with the technologies available
Question might pop up why you need a cell phone.. in 11th ? well why shouldn?t you whats the harm at large I don?t see any if you say thing like this would happen this particular incident mentioned in blog then again it would be all out generalization well? same point use and misuse of technology ?. Even a colleague in workplace could use the camera phone at work place or someone else use it at swim pool side a pervert taking picture.. so there always use and misuse of technology now don?t tell me .. people should? Stop making camera phones for that matter just to prevent misue of it ?.
Why should someone in 11th need a cell phone.. you might say it cool to have and all? well can agree to some extent once upon a time it was? but now its common to have a cell phone? welll its keep you the clich? line ..? keep you connected ? but its true and now saying you go to college to study and not socialize would be bad argument why cant cant you do both ? well today youth more socially active then ? probably would be a working executive etc they got a better social life ? and cell phone play a important role keep you connected to friends and family .. it?s a part of lifestyle i myself have been using cellphone when i was in 11th well i dont see any hard it to contary been usefull… extreamly…
I don?t see a reason why they should be banned in College other then that if they cause disturb the studies of student which they don?t coz if they did then they first of all if there were nonsense then they wouldn?t be allowed in college
Its already become two Long comment?..well the second thing mentioned in the blog entry was about:
Teen indulging in sexual acts:?::?: which another topic, which separate, and attention need to be paid towards it best as said was sex education ? at proper Age which important and not after their mind already corrupted by information from outside like internet/tv/movies they should be aware of things to come .. before they get influenced they should be told? talked
otherwise ? hearing word liks .. fu*k, bit**h, sl*t, bas***d, in school playground don?t be surprise many time? they just say them without knowing ther meaning also once I was shocked to notice a 5 standard kid saying those when asked he said he picked it up from playground ? he didn?t knew what they meant
December 2nd, 2004 at 2:51 am
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December 2nd, 2004 at 8:22 am
Westernization point - understood.
Even I am not blaming everything on media and TV. As you can see I think they are one of the few people to blame amongst the parents of these children. Even I know that parents these days spend more of their making money then spending their time with their children. Women have now started working which is causing more problem than good. Kids come home to a house with a naukar or no one rather than a house with a mother.
Again, how do you know its a few sick teenagers? There are radio shows in Mumbai that are hosted by a guy named the Love Guru. Girls and guys ask questions about their love life, and not just regular questions come up, intimate questions as well. These are from college going or even school going children. You can read my first underlined post and read all about it. I think this trend of sick teenagers can be found in most or all urban cities in India. Its going in a faster rate because everything is becoming so readily available. Everybody has a TV, computer access, and a cellphone. I am not saying that all teenagers in India are like this, that’s a generalization, but I would like to say that the number is increasing rapidly.
Hope to see you back again Ashwin with a revert to my comment.
This is really quite sad and slowly I am becoming aware of this Kunal. Indian women and their thinking is changing. Being liberal is one thing but being over-liberal is another. I am not sure what Indian women are trying to prove but this is really a sad quote.
Cellphones are another issue that I have expressed. Why do children need cellphones in school? I was discussing this with Puneet on Yahoo Messenger yesterday and he said that he also had a phone when he was in 11th standard but could not give me one good reason to why he should have had it other than fun. Look, I am all for fun but you are not going to school to socialize or have fun. Your first and main priority is to learn and gain knowledge. After that in your free time, you can do whatever you want. Cellphones in school are more of a hindrance than anything else and they should be banned. Not only in India, but also in the USA as well.
If a student spends his time sending SMSs or or MMS or whatever during a lecture instead of listening, crams the night before for an exam, and doesn’t do well on the exam, then what has he/she gained? Nothing. If you can’t go to school to learn — then what is the point of even going? This is the time to learn, you have your whole life to have fun and enjoy.
Kunal, if you read my first post on India’s Youth that is linked in the post, you will see that even Neeraj and I are going to come back to India as one of our reasons was that we didn’t want our children to grow up in American schools (I have gone thru American schools — and from my experience, I don’t want my children to go thru it). Its hard to think what India will be like in 5-8 years when we come back and how much more it will have changed. Many thigns will be for the better, but the atmosphere? The people? I don’t know. Society is changing so rapidly in a direction that I cannot say is totally the right direction. It will be interesting to see what happens in the near future.
I had watched a special on ZEE TV where they were doing a report on these well off girls being Escorts. It is really sad. One of the problems is the “demand” has increased. If these men wouldn’t ask for girls, then maybe they wouldn’t have chosen that line. Really its quite sad. I have even heard of girls from IIT Delhi and IIT Kanpur doing such acts. What is this yaar? Really a disgrace.
December 2nd, 2004 at 8:28 am
Westernization is one of the reasons that this is caused but you cannot say the full blame goes there. How did Westernization come into India? TV and Media. So they are a definite blame right there and that’s been a major point with everyone, it seems.
How often here in the USA do you hear about children having sex in school? Not often enough. In fact, I haven’t heard it yet. I was in high school only four years prior and I can tell you that even then when teen sex was on the rise, kids would have sex, but not in school. This is a disgrace man. I don’t say that American children are better than Indian children but incident cannot be compared. I live in the Midwest, I don’t know about your California schools but its not prevalent here.
You know Kunal they were handing out condoms prior to Navratri starting because hoteliers say that most couples come during that time. Arre yaar tum kya mauj masti karne aaye ho yaa phir Navratri celebrate karne aaye ho??? This young generation cares nothing but themselves and for them to be up to date. Bhagwaan bhi koi hota hai…but they seem to want to ignore it. Quite sad.
December 2nd, 2004 at 8:48 am
The reason the title is India’s Children is because I had written about India’s Youth once prior and I wanted this to go on in continuation. As I have said before, its no generalization and I never meant it to be one. Indian children are changing from our parents’ generation to even our generation to the next generation that are in schools now. This new generation’s thinking is nothing like what my thinking was when I was in school.
Cellphones. As I explained to you yesterday on Yahoo Messenger that 11th standard students are not responsible enough to have a cellphone. I don’t care if its a new technology or what, they will have enough time to use it when they are older but they don’t need to bring it to school. School is not the place that you go to socialize first, its a place where you go to learn first.. Its not Baskin Robbins, McDonalds, or any other place like that. Its school. Its where you go to learn. Just because you are bored in a lecture and need something to do and you can whip out your cellphone to play games, doesn’t mean that is right. May it be India or USA, it should be banned from schools. Period. You still cannot provide me with one good reason to keep it and fun is not a reason.
You answer these questions and then give me an argument.
There is no reason to have a cellphone in India for a 11th standard baccha or below for one other reason: STD /PCO booths!! Look, US children don’t even have that and I don’t think they should have a cell phone either! Their Indian counterparts are lucky, they can walk 50 feet and they will find a STD/PCO booth where they can call anyone their want in the whole country. What else do you want????
Corruption of mind has started at a very young age already because parents don’t care to see what their children are watching. My parents used to hover over me to see what I would be watching on television but aaj ke parents ke paas naa time hai naa unko faraq padta hai. That’s the bottom line. You have to take it with consideration that children are going to already know about sex when they come into the Sex Education class.
Gaurav had asked what they taught us in Sex Education and they taught us about what sex is, what a condom is, why teen sex should not be an option, what are some consequences such as teen pregnancy, AIDS, etc.. It was a class that everyone whispered and giggled about, but it was good to take.
Your argument on cellphone still hasn’t convinced me and its only because I know that you are saying this stuff becuz you were in their shoes and had a cellphone as well at that age. You must keep in mind that you have to look at the situation with a non-biased opinion otherwise you are just taking sides. That’s not the point of the argument.
Phew..finally done.
December 2nd, 2004 at 9:26 am
Few things to clarify here ( The scenario in mumbai )
School = (from KG to 10th class where one goes from fixed timing say 8 to 3 in a day there no change in timing anytime during the school its always same from fixed time to fixed time
There Fixed Class room for each Class where they keep having lectures and teachers keep coming and going taking class ,There only one fixed break time in day say half and hour or hour for lunch , attendance taken for whole day at once in first lecture because student not allowed to go outside the classroom or leave the school premises unless unwell etc
FOR THIS CASE I AGREE NO NEED OF CELL PHONE I remember no one had in our school we weren?t allowed now was the Need
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College (here 11 and 12th are regarded as junior college and later degree college etc
College there no fixed timing ?one isn?t Forced to attend all the lecture the onus is on oneself if he choose to or not attend a particular lectures because they given certain extent of freedom because its believed there in growing age and if freedom not given then they wont realize the important of responsibility which come with it ( need minimum 75% attendance all together ) there no continuous lectures at stretch l : there always Gap between Each lectures and practical , and all lecture aren?t conducted in one room so one keep moving from one place to another
Also as in the prac. Do sometimes get extended so ? so people? usually call home or any friend if they had to meet or etc cell phone are usefull?. Well now go to PCO, well why need a PCO if one can do the same at more convenience from cell phone or if not important message to pass on then just SMS which cheaper and easier way and faster also
For this Senario I feel there no harm in using cell phone.. ?each one deserves to use technology if he or she wishes to if it isn?t a hindrance to his study in college coz if cell phone were a hindrance then trust me they would have been banned long ago
And if cell phone start to become Hindrance to study then they should be banned I can second that thought ?like cell phone keep ringing continuously and disturbing teacher from taking class but that doesn?t happen I haven?t seen it happening anytime.. because with thing comes responsibility at least in my college people responsible enough to keep cell phone on silent mode during lecture
Ill answer your question in short as the comment become too much long
1.will let the teacher know if its really something serious or emergency they do allow but not for thing like friend call etc etc crap?
2. they do call and if I cant reaply it gets stored in missed called list I can call frm my cell after lecture over ? or they just sms ..
3.there long gaps to atleast talk from about 5 min to half and hour to one hour depends ?..
December 2nd, 2004 at 9:26 am
May be because it isn’t a big deal here…..”not often enough” - Do we hear these kind of things often about India? & BTW they never had sex in school (xplained in my post.)
December 2nd, 2004 at 10:55 am
In brief, I believe kee one child should get exposure for know things but useful things..Useful for him/her only, so yeh cellphones aur yaa kuch bhi new high tech hai, I think bacche ko jarurat hee nahi honi chaiye aur yeh dekh ke bhi kee woh iska misuse karega, jinke paas bhi hoga woh toh padai se jyadaa baat karenge, jokes bhejenge SMS karke, Tune download karenge…which is not only useless but diverting ones mind in senseless stuff(senseless for a child). Aur yeh sab parents ko hee samajhna padta hai. Aur waise aaj tak toh mere ko kabhi cellphone with camera khareedna bahuut odd hee lagta hai, hardly you will use it when you really have a need of it..but otherwise mere ko nahi lagta, cell cell kee tarah hee use hona chaiye…jahan photos tumhe lene padee wahan waise bhi stand alone camera liye jaaye begair baat nahi banne wali
and its so expensive, khone kaa bhi darr. 
Crowd bombay kaa aur delhi kaa bahut kharaab ho chuka hai…and as for as our settlement is concerned, its better to settle down a neater place and a smaller city can be a good option like Jaipur..baat sahi hai kee poore india kaa haal yehi hai par jahan yeh kamm hai like in smaller city, we can control our children much better than being in a big city where there is no clue what your kid is doing, staying..no idea at all. Aur ek better company unko milegi that’s what I think about settlement.
The cause of all this happenings are many, responsible for them are majorly media (bollywood, TV, hollywood). but who can control all this, my answer is Only parents!!!..
December 2nd, 2004 at 11:06 am
December 2nd, 2004 at 11:07 am
one more thing… if u hv watched TV lately (zoom, zee)… there are these dance competition shows… one is called hmmm dancing divas i think… 4-5 girls compete against each other for the top spot… if u see the way they are dressed ufff… n their dance at times really cheap…
my point… every other person wants to get into the glamour industry nowadays aka bollywood… am sure everyone has heard ab the casting couch… n it exists in a big way… n way some of the girls are being used is pathetic with the promise of landing a role in a movie or a serial… but girls are givin in coz just by sleeping with a few men they can (might) finally have a feet in the glamour world…
read this…
also its well known that even big time models are a part of this ring…
i feel parents and the surrounding n ur peers mould the kinda person u going to be… western culture def has a impact on way kids are now… but with right upbringing they mite just turn out fine…
a prayer for the kids of today… hope they dont mess up…
December 2nd, 2004 at 11:14 am
o o Neeraj, its not only in cities where sex is a common happenning among teenagers… u will b surprised to see the stats… its on a rampage in villages as well as small towns…
but i agree with u on one thing… Parents ! they can make their kids life…
o if neone reads mid-day the paper there is this new thing they hv started called diana sthg where ppl can ask this diana questions… n most of them are sex related…
December 2nd, 2004 at 11:52 am
hey Kunal
yeah i saw that today only and couldnt read just saw…impresion was Well it?s a good thing if the intentions of starting that are good ? it would be helpful it a professional sexologist does that give advise rather then some Miss Diana 
or If it could be just another poly to add one more page to the newspaper to rake in space for more advertisements then its crap
Also did you read this article it was in today’s mid day only
December 2nd, 2004 at 1:08 pm
hey puneet yeah i read that article… well am speechless… u kn suddenly such incidents are on the rise here…
neways awareness among teenagers that they not gonna loose if they dont hv sex is v imp… am telling u this thing of impressing ur peers is what makes all these teenagers do stupid things….
December 2nd, 2004 at 1:47 pm
“I don?t care if its a new technology or what, they will have enough time to use it when they are older but they don?t need to bring it to school.” - Poonam
No they won’t….coz by dat time there will be newer technology in the market and the poor kids will be deprived off the technology that exists today.
I don’t think that banning of cellfones would really do much help. Sitting in a class for 50 minz to 1 hr is too boring. U need to have something to keep u awake. When I was in school, I didn’t have a cellphone, but we used to timepass with other things such as eating our food, playing various games like the famous “tic-tac-toe”, sometimes play a hand held video game or the best was playing with calculator.
Cellfones don’t affect studies… The girl talked about here was an honor student, wot she did won’t affect her studies. Am pretty sure that the guy who had that cellphone would be very inteligent too. I had friends who sometimes used to bunk (coaching) classes and watch movies (I never did though). One might think that bigade bachche hain….but thats not the case most of them grad fromm IITs n got good jobs in India.
Sending an SMS for 5 minutes or calling someone from a cellphone can never ever affect your studies.
December 2nd, 2004 at 1:55 pm
You people were brought up in Indian schools and I can’t believe that me, who went to an American school, is telling you guys to stay awake. India was known for its studies all around the world, and its you guys that can’t stay awake? Really a shame.
New technology will always come out. They will be lucky, they will get to use the new technology early. Cellphones once again, have no other purpose, than fun, just like you pointed out Gaurav, so that means that its a distraction. Lectures are meant to be boring and aren’t meant to be said to the wall. They are meant so that students can learn. Dude, when I was in college there were times that I didn’t listen either, you tune them out that’s another thing, but you don’t sit there and play with your cellphone! That’s also rude to the teacher. They are spending their time teaching you and you can’t sit there and listen???? Geez.
School isn’t suppose to be a bore..if you make it a bore..that’s ur choice.
It still going to be very hard for you to convince me that cellphones are useful in school. They have not been and never will be. That’s it. Stop kidding yourself.
December 2nd, 2004 at 2:13 pm
hehehe…I sleep in American college too….nothing new.
Yes India (was nahi) is known for tis studies all around di world….but to learn do u need to stay awake in a class? no. Yes I didn’t pay attention to wotever some of the teachers blah blahed, but does that mean I didn’t learn anything?
When I came 2 US, they waived my SAT. I had to take a Math test I got 700/700, whereas there were lot of other American kids who “stayed awake in all their classes” and still couldn’t get a decent score. U don’t have to stay awake in the lecture to get the knowledge.
ohhh shoot, juzz rmmbrd that I had a class @ 12 :p - sleep time -
December 2nd, 2004 at 2:21 pm
I don’t think that it something to be proud of that you sleep in college as well..par soch soch ki baat hai.
If you can get good grades by not even staying awake then I say then why even go to class? Just show up for the exam and you will be fine. But not all can do that — and not all can pass those board exams without attending the lectures. By paying attention, listening, and trying to indulge the knowledge is how you are going to pass an exam.
Lecture is one of the way that you gain that knowledge. Just think about it if those students who rather do timepass and masti, do you think they will try to gain that knowledge outside of their school time? Not in this lifetime. If everybody was smart enough to just take the exam and sleep thru lectures, then we would have no lectures, we would just have exams. Is that how it should be?
I don’t think so. Many more students would fail that way. So keep it in mind. You might be the exception, but everyone isn’t as gifted as you might be.
December 2nd, 2004 at 2:49 pm
Actually u opened my eyes, so am not going to the class
its not that I get excellent grades all the time. and its not only me who sleeps in the class, there are others too….now y do we have to study ethnic studies n women studies….and American history?
Yeah I know a lot of them. My frnds @ school n college (in India) were like that generally. Its not that we did timepass in school n then later go home n study stuff. We did the timepass for the classes where a teacher was mahaboring (believe me they exist in India n US as well) n subjects like Physical Edu/ Communication Skills…etc. We just studied at the end of the year/semester and I believe most of the kids do that in India (anybody studying in India wanna comment on it?)
I think the topic is being diverted to education n cellfones etc… from the original theme of What has happened to Indian Children.
December 2nd, 2004 at 2:57 pm
I know this happens. We all know this happens. But I can tell you this much the reason this happens is because you don’t pay attention during the lectures so you have to learn everything at the end.
Ahem..that was my first point btw. 
Which isn’t the best way to study anyway.
Tons of people sleep in class, I know that too, its better that you don’t go to class if you are going to sleep anyway. Yes there are reasons you are suppose to read and learn American History, Women Studies, etc. There is a reason for everything, ask your professor.
There are many people just like you who have asked that question which is exactly what my other point was — parents/teachers need to educate their children/students to why they are learning what they learning.
The education system and cellphones are all related to my post. Don’t worry, we haven’t diverted.
December 2nd, 2004 at 3:15 pm
yup…I wasnt sure if it went to automatic moderation or it wasn’t even posted. Here it is
Y not? one can have fun during whole year/sem and can sutdy with a recharged brain at the end. But it has been observed that girls generally don’t use this method
December 2nd, 2004 at 3:16 pm
Nothing really left to say … actually, I have no energy left to comment, after reading all these comments.
I would just like to add that,its a package.So along with all the good things which are coming with the Liberalization/growth of Indian economy , there are other not-so-good things which are creeping in.Being mature enough to righteously pick out just the best things is someting which Parents can do and in some cases even the child , but then Parenting is a very heavy topic and I dont think I have given much thought to it yet.
But there is an article that I remeber reading quite some time back in BusinessWeek … its a pretty old article written way back in ‘99 and at that time it was the cover story, but it still makes a pretty good read.Very balanced article and compared to many other such articles, this one really stands out.
Check it out if you have time ….
December 2nd, 2004 at 3:21 pm
Thanks for the article Sameer. I will definitely have a look at it.
December 2nd, 2004 at 3:42 pm
Sameer: Though the article is old but makes a lot of sense. I think the author is predicting the future in right direction. The next-gen will be definetly influenced by the money and hopefully will take India to higher level. Its upto the nxt-gen to get young and honest politicians and not some extremist old guys who don’t think of anything else except themselves.
December 2nd, 2004 at 7:51 pm
hmmm as I know … it happened in Indonesia too …
I think nowadays, people take sex as a something usual and normal. They should try and do that just for fun, people don’t appreciate sex more like before. I definately don’t agree with this thought. Sex is something really important and you can’t just try and play around with that.
It’s true that it’s so sad seeing what happened now with the new generation.
About mobile phone, yeah sometimes I don’t understand why those young people need mobile phone. They don’t need that …. in here, sometimes I saw kids, 10 years old or maybe younger, have mobile and so proud of it, the worse … they have the brand new mobile, which just out few days …. When I was in final year high school, my father gave me a mobile phone, and I can say … I almost never used it ! I always switched off because I don’t need that … it’s most useful for working people I guess ….
December 3rd, 2004 at 1:23 am
Durex Global Sex Survey 2004
In one of my previous posts , I talked about the changing trends in sexual activities among Indian teenagers. Here is something interesting, that I found today
More than 350,000 people from 41 countries took part in the world’s largest ever surv…
December 3rd, 2004 at 6:36 am
woa… chk these 3 articles in TOI which hv been published today…
I think condoms ruin the fun
Condoms in Class VII school bags
C’est la vie: Right here, right now
December 3rd, 2004 at 8:14 am
Poonam ?Did our parents get thru school without using cellphones? Umm?yes. That means that its possible.?
Arrrree I am goona faint now :faint:? Poonam you refuse to this topic beyond your realm and its getting rhetorical same preconceived thoughts , when u said one should have unbiased opinion I thoguth over it and said in my earlier comment that well cellphone should be banned if they are a hindrance to Study and IF THEY were they would have been Baned by Now .. the people at the University and college etc the head aren?t fool? to allow if they considered them a hindrance to study
Poonam ?Did our parents get thru school without using cellphones? Umm?yes. That means that its possible.?
Well there weren?t any cell phone in India At least when my parents went to School, cant say what would be thing when would be next 20 years down the line ? so things don?t remain stagnant as they were or you saying they didn?t have so you all shouldn?t also have no offence but that?s highly stupid logic doesn?t make sense if that?s what it is?.
Coz one of the perception what I cam make out from comment posted earlier by many is
?We didn?t have ?.Cell phone when we were in Scholl?? thus other should follow suit they should also refrain?
I mean come on.. I believe the only thing constant in Life is a Change !
Well also I agree with many of the things gaurav mentioned cant retype them here as comment would become too long
December 3rd, 2004 at 9:20 am
Things don’t get banned so easily. Do head of college people spend more time doing their job or watching what new technology is coming out and what they can ban?? Come on yaar…once something that happens that they see that is causing a problem to the education of their students..that’s when action is taken. You can’t just assume that action will be taken just automatically.
You are going to think that’s highly stupid..because u don’t understand it….Another thing..before you start criticising someone else’s thought..try to read through what they are trying to say. That would be the mature thing to do instead jumping the gun. Your argument is basically irrelevant only because you don’t look outside of the box. You cannot think from the students’ perception…and that’s what you are doing now. You have to look at everyone involved and see it from their eyes as well. Read some of the articles where parents have written in or teachers have written in on what they think should be done with cellphones and school. Then maybe you will get the whole picture.
So take it with a grain of salt.